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This page is the output of a Direct Democracy platform which is growing in size every single day. It is an attempt at aggregating the collective views of the Occupy Britain movement. Think of the page in this way: the debating and voting of ideas and policy goes on at the Google Moderator site and the results of that debate are fleshed out here on the wiki.

This page is constantly evolving and can never be considered 'finished'. Voting on the Google Moderator site can effect what is written here at any time. This page is a fluid representation of the many views being represented within the Occupy Britain movement. For this system of debating and wiki editing to work, you must get involved. This is YOUR revolution. Edit the wiki, correct mistakes, improve its content and protect us from vandalism.

Get involved!

Votes so far

A total of 539 people have submitted 350 ideas and voted a total of 8,884 times GOOGLE MODERATOR [GM] REFERENCE

How to take part

  1. Submit your idea at
  2. Vote on as many ideas as you can
  3. Implement the popular policies to this wiki page
  4. Add detail, data, arguments for/against, references, and structure to the policy ideas using normal Wikipedia editing model
  5. Repeat this process until the tools laid out above change it.

Editing rules

--Brobof 04:33, 27 October 2011 (BST)suggests that obvious defacement should be removed to a wall of shame. ONE warning given and a subsequent defacement results in a ban. (Can you track defacer by IP address? If so please delete.)

--Brobof 18:36, 28 October 2011 (BST) suggests (having seen how other wiki communities do it !) that debate concerning implementations be moved to the parallel Discussion page!

The Direct Democracy statement

Those with opposing views will be welcomed

Other views have value, and will be debated, people expressing contrary views will not be banned, censured or have their posts removed. To stifle other viewpoints would make the movement look weak, and unable to defend it's own aims and views. Democracy is the corner stone of this movement.

To expand the movement, and gain popular support the electorate MUST be engaged in debate, preaching to the converted is largely pointless.

The vote on the moderator page is entitled

"Those with opposing views should be debated with, banning them simply means that "we" lose credibility when we can't defend our OWN views" (there seem to be no other working links in any other subject, so i trust this reference will suffice)

Removing those who challenge our views only makes our Democracy weak. In a truly free society, open debate is a corner stone of true Democracy. All views should be debated, but that debate MUST take place on the Google Moderator page. Once an idea has become popular there, it can be inserted - at the correct place relative to its popularity ie. not at the top of the page.

We don't want to stifle anyone's viewpoint here on this wiki, viewpoints will be debated on the Google Moderator page. To add a point to the Direct Democracy, you MUST link to its corresponding page on the Google Moderator page. Posts without a link to their Google Moderator page will be deleted.

Ban corporate lobbying of politicians

"Ban corporate financing of politicians. Ban politicians moonlighting for corporates. Ban politicians from taking up directorships with corporates post-government that they awarded contracts to when in government." Google Moderator [GM] Reference

NEW "One in five staff passholders in the House of Lords linked to lobbying" (8 November 2011) Guardian

1. Politicians will no longer be allowed to financially gain from their past; current or future role in government.

2. Political parties will no longer be allowed to financially gain from government decisions made by their parties in power.

3. No party or politician may be funded by corporations, trade union or any other organised body.

4. No corporation; trade union or other organised body may financially support in any form: a politician, their staff and family.

5. No corporation; trade union or other organised body may financially support in any form any political party.

6. All political funding must be sourced by voluntary donation from private citizens and limited to £100 p.a.

7. This donation can be made to either a political party; an individual politician or a general fund used to finance prospective M.P.s who wish to remain independant of the party system.

This allows lobbying in the traditional sense: appeals to reason; petitions and other means of dialogue:

All lobbying should be a matter of record. All corporate, trade union and lobbying carried out by organised groups should be minuted. No lobbying is permitted outside of Parliament and outside of public scrutiny. The only lobbying not on public record is that between a private citizen and their M.P. Private meetings would parallel the laywer client relationship.

Any lawfully proven act of impropriety by a politician will result in that M.P. being expelled from Parliament and an immediate by-election being called. Any lawfully proven act of impropriety by a political party will result in an immediate general election.

A political party's manifesto is a legally binding document between a political party and the People.

Campaigns to be state-funded

1. All election Campaigns to be state-funded with equal and relatively small amounts of money. (This levels the field, and removes political indebtedness to unaccountable groups.) GM Reference

2 Advertising --Brobof 11:08, 25 October 2011 (BST)

2.1 National party advertising is limited to 1%

2.2 Local party advertising is limited to 9%

2.3 The remainder is allocated to candidates equitably and on an individual basis rather than a party basis.

(To encourage independent candidates (representatives) vs party 'hacks')

2.4 All advertising, 'slogans', leaflets and electronic publications must be without distortions, accusations and fabrications. Paralleling existing advertising codes. Candidates or parties found breaching those codes will be financially penalised. The adjudged fines being paid back into the state election fund.

2.5. False accusations of breaching the campaigning codes will also be fined. (Reference removed per request below --Brobof 09:21, 31 October 2011 (UTC))

Why is what thatcher spends now relevant to election campaigns?

Implement direct democracy

1/ "Right to Recall MPs! If enough constiutents sign a petition then the MP is forced into a by-election. The libdems promised this in their manifesto" GM Reference [1]

Suggestions so far; 60% of electorate to MP's current Majority eg L Mensch: 1,951

Other References

Clegg calls for US-style recall system for discredited MPs [2]Reference.

Wiki on Recalls [3]Reference

Note: low % in Switzerland; American process v complicated; Venezuela = 20%

2/ "Every member of the society should be able to vote directly on specific issues many times a year, with online voting possible." GM Reference: [4]

"Free internet access points so everyone will be able to vote online." GM Reference: [5]

{If this is to be in the manifesto, why are votes taken in the Google space completely ignored. Are we paying any more than lip service to democracy? Will we only allow voting majorities to have the final say on any issue when it suits us?

--Brobof 00:32, 26 October 2011 (BST)The system is to take the TOP Ranked ideas (this was one of them and the other I just added is linked and also has a clear mandate) ...with a clear majority support and transfer them to here. Those ideas now need refining, expanding and ultimately checked by a legal team.

The process takes place by consensus. Like wikipedia. People don't vote. Merely correct. Ideally working to a common goal. In this case a common manifesto. Policy. Or bill of rights.

The Moderator site is our guide. This wiki should reflect those wishes.

2.1 On major issues concerning the nation there should be a mechanism by which direct democracy can be called for.

2.2 One of these mechanisms will be by an e-petition of citizens eligible to vote exceeding one percent* of the current plebiscite.

[*Last general election: 29,691,780 votes cast 65.1% turnout thus plebiscite = 45,609,493 thus 456,094 signatures currently required.]

2.3 The issue must then be held in abeyance and subject to a week long national debate before a referendum decides the outcome.

2.4 In order to streamline the process we should move to a secure, verifiable and non commercial electronic voting system.

Encourage independent political candidates

"Encourage independent political candidates from all backgrounds to stand for election by finding a system that does not penalise those who do not have a large deposit." GM reference: [6]

[Remove the requirement for a deposit.] 1.0 The requirement for a deposit to stand as a candidate in a general election should be abolished.

1.1 To stand as a candidate in a general election the candidate must obtain 1000 signatures from residents of voting age and domiciled in that constituency.

1.2 The candidate must be a registered council tax payer in the constituency.


Excellent internal resource? [[7]]

More emphasis on Public banks

Reference: [8]

  1. Banks should pay for their own failure.
  2. Change bankers pay deal.

Other References: "Fair and just financial system in the public interest" [9]

"Business as usual: top directors get 49 per cent rise" Independant Friday, 28 October 2011 [10]

End Fractional reserve banking

GM Reference: [11]

Other References

Global Debt Clock [12]

"Banks are lending less, says Bank of England" (Manchester Evening News October 21, 2011)[13]

Money should be a public utility. But most people don't realise that it isn't. At the heart of our dysfunctional financial system is a remarkably poorly understood fact. Private banks create 97% of our money supply for private profit. A few simple changes to the law governing the banking system can stop the banks from blowing up the economy again in the future, and mean that we’ll never have to bail out another toxic bank. We can also remove banks' power to create money, and use that privilege responsibly for the benefit of society and the economy as a whole." pdf

Link to Positive Money Campaign. Not endorsed by the Occupy Movement Positive Money

No more Quantitive Easing

QE is inflation, which is money hijacked by the banks causing more people to slip into poverty as they can't afford to buy food/pay bills.

Debt forgiveness

Global derivatives = $600 trillion. Global GDP = $60 trillion. Derivatives = risk = debt. Too big to fail hold all derivatives. Break up too big to fail, legislate repayment for all bail outs, negotiate new Bretton Woods agreement

Hot off the press this evening:­eature=player_embedded&v=JXzKc­S_9qi8 This is a massive issue. The G20 is debating whether to deem 50 banks too big to fail. If this happens we will become the insurers of $600T of debt. Everyone should be aware of this. Here's the source info:­man-sachs-citibank-jp-morgan-c­hase-bank-of-america-have-asse­ts-of-5-trillion-carry-235-tri­llion-in-risk-exposure-13-of-w­orld-total/

No selling of food on stock market

Food substances should not be able to be speculated on the commodities exchange. Betting on food sells the hungry short.

Civil Liberties

Restore civil liberties

"Review and restore civil liberties removed under the guise of "anti-terror" legislation" GM REFERENCE

Recent Legislation

Criminal Justice (Terrorism and Conspiracy) Act 1998

Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000

Terrorism Act 2000

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001

Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005

Terrorism Act 2006

Counter-Terrorism Act 2008

"Explainer: Terrorism legislation" (Guardian 22nd January 2009) Source


No tax funded bank bailouts

No tax-payer funded financial bailouts for banks-period. If they are insolvent, then they must go bankrupt or sell themselves to the state for £1

Close the tax loopholes exploited by 98 of the FTSE100

"Tax the 98 of the FTSE 100 companies who don't currently pay, use the money to invest in green technology; create jobs, stimulate the economy, save the planet."

A study by ActionAid showed that 98 of the top FTSE100 were effectively paying a zero percent corporate tax by having many subsidiaries in tax havens such as Jersey and The Cayman Islands. REFERENCE

Tax Research Briefing: Manifesto for tax justice REFERENCE

Implement The Robin Hood Tax

It's an excellent beginning that is already well organized: a tax on a small percentage of the notional value of derivative transactions

Implement Land Value Tax

As well as some VAT, seek to replace income tax with LVT (Land Value Tax), a fairer revenue system for the community and it's pretty hard to hide land so it's more robust against avoidance or evasion. REFERENCE

I can see an issue with this - What happens in the case of someone with a low income retiring, but having an expensive amount of land? A Land Value Tax could force them from their home. - domjohnson


Re-nationalise the Utilities

"These should be run by the people for the people not for profit and not taxed, why should someone else profit from your warmth thirst or basic human comforts" Reference: [14]

Other References:


RELEASE: World Bank partners with Nestlé to "transform water sector" New venture aims to privatize water country by country October 25, 2011



Two solutions:

A Drastic Re-nationalisation

B 'Creeping Re-Nationalisation' {vs Creeping privatization}

This policy aims to return all existing Utilities back under public control. Eventually.

New government investment in Science and Technology to deliver the next generation in utility provisions. The existing Utility companies have failed even to maintain the publicly funded infrastructure they 'acquired' under privatisation. This failure to invest in the future, forfeits their right to a future.

"Re-Nationalisation Authorities" to replace current QUANGOS: OFFGEN etc These independent regulatory bodies provided with sweeping powers to fine and implement changes to move to a more equitable local and eco-friendly systems. Their sole remit is to reacquire control lost by privatisation in a non-disruptive transitional process.

The utility companies prevented from issuing new stock.

1/ New concessions are paid for in stock.

2/ New legislation tightening up delivery of service. Fines for failure.

3/ New legislation making companies maintain their infrastructure. Fines for failure.

4/ Cost increases pegged to below inflation.

5/ New legislation imposing concessions for elderly.

6/ Abolition of punitive tariffs (Fuel Poverty, Coin Meters); streamline tariffs. Fines for mis-selling tariffs.

7/ New legislation to incorporate Green initiatives. Fines for failure.

8/ Price fixing/ Cartels revocation of licence.

x/ File:"Squeeze until the pips squeek"

All fines to be taken exclusively in the form of stock held and voted by the Re-Nationalisation Authority so as to bring about transfer of control.

?Pro rata on the number of shares held by the investor.

?The minimum holding being one share.

?Share owning democracy advocates?

New infrastructure paid for by public money cannot be leased by the private sector.

When infrastructure requires building/re-building/repairing, where will the money come from? If we as a country have to buy fuel to meet our needs and the world wholesale price rises by more than inflation, how would the shortfall be met if prices cannot be raised above the rate of inflation?

Specific policies for specific industries.





(Move Transport here ?)

New Build

New build uses new technologies.

This may be the only real way forward. All new build is publicly owned and not available to private companies.

Locally Distributed Green Energy projects (Private Companies excluded)

Public Hydrogen Economy (Private Companies excluded)

Local and National transport systems: monorails, trams, high speed train links ([15]MagLev?)

New Fibre Optic Information Hyper-Highway

Satellite Communications

The aim is to replace the old top down centralised utilities with new local and publicly accountable systems

Re-nationalise public transport

The modern economy need goods and commuters to be able to move around on mass it is now a necessity and therefore should be run as a non-profit service.


We need a sustainable system.

The current trends within capitalism are not sustainable. We're using finite resources in an ever increasing rate, due to the commercialism and materialistic society that we live in, grown via marketing and advertising.


Free education to all ages & uk citizens

The more people with skills the more industries that will invest in the uk Giving the population more spending power. The cost of the education would be recouped by the extra tax paid from increased income.

Scrap league tables

They stifle social mobility: Wealthy people move home to be near the best schools which creates higher unaffordable prices for less the less wealthy. They degrade the quality of education, schools must move higher in tables and begin to only teach subjects that guarantee high pass rates. They choose to accept academically astute over the practically inclined.


Roll up to Nationalisation of Utilities

History For reference, this page has been through many incantations since it was first started. For histories sake, the original page and all its edit history can be found at [16].